Charlie Gilmour Got His Just Desserts

I was beginning to think I was the only one who thought the sentence was correct, he got exactly what he deserved.

I must say I do feel for his parents though, they seem like decent enough people and it must be tough to see this happen to their son, then again he has to learn his lesson.

Aren't we all supposed to be equal in the eyes of the law? Ah but we can forget that can't we when the green-eyed monster shows up. Just for added effect we then judge Mr and Mrs Gilmour on their parenting skills based on some incidents on one particular day perpetrated by Gilmour's step son.

First offence for what is little more than being drunk and disorderly (no-one physically hurt) and he gets 16 months? This isn't justice.

Yes he was a complete moron but a suspended sentence along with a heavy fine and community service would have sufficed.

Smoking Hot, you forget that our system of justice allows for the principle of making an example of someone as a deterrent to others. 16 months (which will end up being more like 6-8 months in real life, of course) is a headline grabbing sentence that hopefully will deter other educated but irresponsible oiks from doing the same thing.

For the first time in a long time, I'm quite impressed by a verdict.

Make a scapegoat of him simply because of his status? ... and this impresses you?

Sounds like Jagger and Richards ... "Who breaks a butterfly upon a wheel?"

Completely disagree with this piece. I think 16 months for being a moron, chucking a bin at a car and being generally disrespectful is incredibly harsh. I understand that Gilmour won't do 16 months but seriously, these are misdemeanors in my book. Also, you say 'champagne socialist' so scathingly. Basically, you don't like rich leftys (not many people do) that's no reason to make a scapegoat of someone.

I think the message the sentence sends is correct and very positive.

Don't forget, there were many more law breaking morons who went way over the top in London and decided to smash things up for a laugh who can't be identified. Hopefully this serves as a warning as to what they can expect if they want to go around causing havoc in the capital and are identified.

I see your point but can't help thinking that if it were you or someone close to you, you'd feel it unjust. I don't think you can ever use the law to make an example of someone because ultimately, idiotic as that person is, they're still someone.

What I mean to say is that Gilmour shouldn't be held to account for the actions of other people on the day just because, as you said, they can't be identified and held to account themselves.

Katy, only the 'statement' matters regardless of the damage it probably will do to the family and Charlie himself. This type of 'justice' has no regard for anything else except to publically make Charlie and his family suffer as much as is possible ... all for the 'statement'.

For once the justice system has got its verdict and punishment just about right. Many people protested on that particular day. They did not use violence and intimidation and did not show a disgusting lack of respect to the war dead. If this clown had not been given this sentence it would have given entirely the wrong signal to those who intend doing the same thing on their next fun day out, sorry, challenging an oppressive fascist state.
One more thing, if he had received a heavy fine, with parents as millionaires, who do you think would have paid it?

So this indulged cretinous non entity got sixteen months. Excellent. I suspect that he'll be given a hard time inside. Lets hope he learns from the experience. To all those winging that the sentence was too harsh for a "misdemeanour" - insulting our war dead is a very serious offence and enraged millions of your fellow citizens. In a word - we found it offensive. You still don't get it? Then go to the Menin gate. Please arrive at Sunset Then maybe you'll begin to understand.
If you don't know what or where the Menin Gate is - look it up.

Jez

Jez ... remind me again about any actual charges brought regarding the War Memorial?

Memorial in Sofia Bulgaria http://nothing-2-declare.blogspot.com/2011/07/soviet-soldiers-become-superheroes.html

This would be death penalty then?

I would suggest that Jeremy Bridges echoes the sentiment of the vast majority of the British public who will have no objection to Gilmour's sentence.

Suggest as much as you like, it doesn't make it justifiable no matter how big the mob is.

If you count his actions as "little more than drunk and disorderly" then of course you're against the term. But attacking Police and swinging from a Cenotaph off your head on LSD is self-evidently a far worse offence.

Are you incapable of seperating fact from fiction?

The charge of violent disorder had nothing to do with the Cenotaph. There were no charges relating to the Cenotaph ... period!

He didn't attack police, he attacked police property ... vehicles! Oh and he kicked a window, kicked mind, not broke it.

This 'danger to society' will now be locked up at taxpayers expence. What do you think that will achieve? Think Charlie will endure hardship whilst inside? Think again, Charlie will be looked after inside if his parents have any sense, which l'm sure they do.

Think it will damage his prospects? Seeing his parents are multi-millionaires thats extremely doubtful.

Think Charlie will learn something? Certainly he will (prob already has), that 'justice' is political and nothing to do with justice. He may not have had a reason to demonstrate and rebel before but he has now.

He'd already apologised publically for the Cenotaph and his other behaviour. A suspended sentence and community service would've served perfectly. lt would have given the lad a chance but the mob don't want that do they?
Wouldn't want him to actually put something back into society, would we? No, that certainly wouldn't do. lf he screwed up after that then you can have your penal retribution.

But no, you want it now and your chance to take a swipe at his parents. l have little to worry about from Charlie. You however are supposedly the young voice of UKIP and that does worry me.

Smoking Hot - It seems that you are the one who thinks Charlie Gilmour is above the law and that because he may be looked after and that his parents are multi-millionaires he shouldn't have been put in prison.

He has been made an example of. A reasonably long sentence can be expected by anyone causing havoc in London at one of these protests. Good.

Typical politic speak gobblygook. You answer nothing, just constantly repeat yourself albeit with nothing of substance to back your opinions up with. Whether that is down to sheer ignorance or arrogance or indeed both is debatable (< which you are obviously incapable of doing anyway)

You will certainly want the last word so be my guest. l'm finished with this thread.

I have no problem with Gilmour being sentenced for this length of time. I would be good if he got sent down from Cambridge as well, but I suspect he won't Girton College were always very forgiving of student misbehaviour in the past, though I don't know about for anything on this scale.

I have no problem with Gilmour being sentenced for this length of time. I would be good if he got sent down from Cambridge as well, but I suspect he won't Girton College were always very forgiving of student misbehaviour in the past, though I don't know about for anything on this scale.

tallanddaft - You would have thought Gilmour's pathetic actions (and lengthy spell in prison) would be enough to see him booted out of such a prestigious learning institution. I wonder if having rich and famous parents will save him from losing his place at Cambridge?

Having rich and famous parents won't save him, they don't care about that, I just remember people generally people getting off very lightly with stupid stuff done in college. It's very rare for anyone to get sent down, which is probably good with most stuff, as we all do stupid things when young, though nothing close to the scale of Gilmour. I hope he is sent down though, going to Girton is a privilege, not a right, and privileges can be taken away.

Tallanddaft - I certainly think that him losing his place at Girton would send out a very positive message of what is expected from students.

Just desserts? I thought he was doing Porridge, not pudding.