In Defence of Margaret Thatcher
Former General Secretary of the Labour Party, Peter Watt explains why Margaret Thatcher is rightly lauded as one of the greatest PM’s of all time.
28 Nov 2011, 12:00
Time for Labour to face reality?
Now before anyone starts the entirely predictable ‘you’re in the wrong Party’ tripe let me first say this. It was Margaret Thatcher that first politicised me – objecting to her ‘there is no such thing as society’ approach was at odds with my own sense the world. Like so many I was angry at the seeming indifference to the unemployed; the devastation of so many of our northern towns and the passing of section 28. And that is before you get to the unforgiveable attacks on the ANC and her defence of the then apartheid regime in South Africa. All of this added to a determination that what she represented had to be stopped. I remember the excitement I felt when she finally did resign.
I still feel all of those things. But I also know something else. She was incredibly successful and popular. She won three general elections in a row and increased her vote at each. Huge swathes of middle England adored her and she trounced Labour. I remember at the time I just couldn’t understand it. Everyone I knew wanted her gone and yet she kept winning. Unemployment kept rising and still she kept winning. Polls seem to turn against her and still she kept winning. By-elections kept being lost and still she kept winning. People booed at members of her Cabinet when they appeared on Question Time and enthusiastically cheered Labour politicians. Millions marched against her and still she kept winning.
Labour folk like me just couldn’t understand it. And so we blamed the voters. But the problem was that Margaret Thatcher knew something we didn’t. A significant number of voters make their decision on who to vote for on who they feel has their best interest at heart. So her tough no nonsense approach that emphasized strong leadership, personal responsibility and aspiration worked for many. The opportunity to own your own home, the talking up of Britain after the 1970’s and standing up to the French and Germans all hit the mark. It didn’t matter what the realities were of whether, say, her tough talking on Europe actually amounted to anything because it was how she made people feel.
The World seemed pretty scary with poor international economic conditions and a threatening Eastern Bloc. Labour’s positions may well have seemed reasonable to Labour but frankly the last thing people wanted was reasonable. What they wanted was strong and uncompromising leadership – and with Margaret T that was what they got.
And quite frankly we also need to reflect on the fact that thirteen years of Labour Government did not see the wholesale reversal of her legacy, in fact we barely reversed anything. At the time we may have objected to the privatisation of BA, BT or British Gas but with hindsight we were never going to reverse them and why the hell did we even object? There was always a row at Party Conference about reversing the Tories Trade Union legislation but we were never really going to legislate to allow secondary pickets or strikes without a ballot of members. In other words, despite the fact that we look back and despise, the reality is that we have not changed a whole lot of what she actually did.
And that is why now I have come to admire her. Not everything she did or stood for, but as an incredibly successful democratically elected Leader. She is rightly lauded as one of the greatest PM’s of all time. It wasn’t until people in the Labour Party recognised that maybe they need to start looking at what they were doing and saying for the causes of our defeats, rather than at the voters stupidity, that we started to become competitive. We needed to understand voters beliefs, fears and hopes rather than just pandering to our own sense of what was right and wrong. But even then we still lost the 1992 election to a weak Tory Leader. The voters were still to be convinced.
But to read some of the Thatcher hating twitter and blog posts about at the moment and you’d think that Labour had spent all of the 1980’s and early 90’s winning the argument. You’d think that Margaret Thatcher was hated by everyone when she kept winning. You’d think that she was despised by people now – when polls say that is far from being the case. If we are to win again anytime soon then we must not rewrite history. We need to remember that from 1979 – 1997 we were in opposition because we kept losing. And we kept losing because more people voted for Margaret Thatcher (and John Major) than voted Labour.
But most of all we need to remember that she won and we lost because she instinctively understood voters. She knew how to make them feel secure and provided strong leadership. She spoke up for people who wanted to better themselves and their families. She was the daughter of a Grocer and understood the needs of families struggling but determined to make ends meet. And for all of that, and despite that fact that so much of what she stood for I oppose, ultimately I admire and respect her. Labour would do well not to forget the lessons learned over those long 18 years in opposition
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Superb stuff Peter - you really should be in charge of Labour not Ed Miliband.
28/11/2011 12:40You have spoken up in defence of Margaret Thatcher Peter so I may as well speak up in defence of John Major. You call him a weak Tory leader, but it is worth remembering that he managed to win an election in 1992 that, I am quite sure, Thatcher would have lost had she still been in power then.
28/11/2011 12:49Thanks Plato - not sure I'd get the votes! Paul, fair point, what I meant was 'weak politically' rather than personally weak. I think that the apparent airbrushing out of John Major is all a bit sad and probably unfair.
28/11/2011 13:32To be fair to Major, no-one thought he would win at all in 1992 and he had to govern with a majority of about 20. We'll never know how Thatcher would have fared with such a small majority.
28/11/2011 15:58"you’d think that Labour had spent all of the 1980’s and early 90’s winning the argument. You’d think that Margaret Thatcher was hated by everyone when she kept winning. You’d think that she was despised by people now – when polls say that is far from being the case. If we are to win again anytime soon then we must not rewrite history."
There are pleanty in the leadership of the conservative party who would benifit from taking that on board as well!
28/11/2011 16:42"She won three general elections in a row and increased her vote at each."
Er, no she didn't. 1979 Conservative 13.7 million votes, 1983 Conservaitve 13.0 million votes. Admittedly it was back to 13.7 million ish by 1987 but the share of the vote declined in each election.
Major, in 1992, was the only party leader (ever) to lead his party to a total vote of more than 14 million and even that saw the Conservative share of the vote decline from the previous result.
28/11/2011 16:45Thanks Keith for the clarification.
28/11/2011 18:23Actually Peter she was very popular with the working class and it was securing their votes and loyalty that made her electoral victories possible.
She was in fact always unpopular with the bourgiousie; especially the hard core labour voting portion of it, because she didnt speak in emolient PC tones and was seen as "strident" and just a little bit comically common like Hyacinth Bucket or Mary Whitehouse. There are few souvenirs of the time more embarassing to revisit than the vile snobbish sexist sneering emitted, typically on the BBC, by the likes of Joanathan Miller and Germaine Greer.
As you say she took on the deluded old left so perfectly reanimated in dead Ed and trounced them to everyones benefit inclding briefly (alas) your own parties; and she never really said (or meant in the way it is misrepresented) "there is no such thing as society".
28/11/2011 18:27"A significant number of voters make their decision on who to vote for on who they feel has their best interest at heart. So her tough no nonsense approach that emphasized strong leadership, personal responsibility and aspiration worked for many. "
Really ? Thats mind blowing NOT.
But it tells you a lot about the left.
Another key point you missed was leadership (Smith aside) she was going up against the calibre of the likes of Kinnock and co. A cabinet constructed from the main cast members of the Muppet show would get more votes than him and his brothers and sisters.
Thank god you have not learnt your lesson and you picked Ed the sitting duck, as in this climate the current government would be toast.
P.S
28/11/2011 20:54Pete you got chuck under the bus unfairly hope things turned out o.k for you.
Im sure as well that there will be busloads of SNP supporters as well (secretly) agreeing with you about Thatch, but for different reasons.
Thatch was the first openly English nationalist to become PM. Whether this was a factor or not, she had the ability - which many modern Tories seem to have taken on - to rub Scottish people up the wrong way. Her address to the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland in May 1988 was not dubbed "The Sermon On The Mound" for nothing.
Yes, she was a leader who took tough decisions and stood up for the UK. However that does not excuse a lot of the wrong decisions made during her time. Decisions that have continuing ramifications in the formerly industrialised parts of the UK. Her legacy is the increassingly fractured UK.
29/11/2011 20:50Not another misuse of the 'no such thing as...' quote. Please, once and for all, accept her whole statement for what it was clearly meant to be - a belief that a nation is made up of people and families and not some abstract statistical unit or some mass of humanity that can be shaped by big government and command economies. It was policies based on this premise, on top of strong leadership, that made her and Reagan such important figures. Time is already changing attitudes to towards them, as you are decent enough to acknowledge.
02/12/2011 20:55